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05-13-2005, 04:53 PM   #21

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What offer of exchange – for what machine?

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First, I think, for sake of argument, that the 63XX would work so poorly (imagine worst if you can) that everyone would go crazy(er). Also, several 63XX applications, drivers, etc would have to be re-written – HP isn’t going to put more $$ into an already disastrous product just to make it worst.

The worst of it is that initial testing proved the 63XX unstable before it was released last year; HP didn’t want to eat the millions of lost R&D…so “I guess” they assumed people wouldn’t notice the blunder. This and other reasons is why T-Mobile offered the free exchange plus (+) credit.

I never received any offer of an exchange + Credit. What machine were they offering people to upgrade too?

Please email me at [email protected] as I dont check the board very often.

Thanks for any help.

 
05-13-2005, 06:45 PM   #22

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The exchange info – http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/…threadId=840901 Read the initial posting from me. However, be clear, T-Mobile “may” have withdrawn their offer. I jumped on it and I’ve been riding the fence, I have the Treo 600 & my iPAQ 6315 – soon I will have to send one back… Therefore, contact T-Mobile. (you have to have an active T-Mobile account or forget it)

Good Luck!

 
05-13-2005, 09:46 PM   #24

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David this is excellent!!! Very interesting..

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05-14-2005, 10:55 AM   #25

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Hi, I to read the article at Brighthand and found it to be incorrect. The limiting factor isn’t for the lack of ROM on the 63xx as stated. Clearly, the hx2100 has the same amount of ROM. Perhaps, as David J. illustrated, the limiting factor is the lack of an Intel cpu. Also, does anyone know of an email address (David J.) at HP where some can voice their displeasure about the lack of the OS update for their priciest pda/phone model? High end price. Low end service.

Thanks.

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05-14-2005, 12:07 PM   #26

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Total disappoinment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi, I to read the article at Brighthand and found it to be incorrect. The limiting factor isn’t for the lack of ROM on the 63xx as stated. Clearly, the hx2100 has the same amount of ROM. Perhaps, as David J. illustrated, the limiting factor is the lack of an Intel cpu. Also, does anyone know of an email address (David J.) at HP where some can voice their displeasure about the lack of the OS update for their priciest pda/phone model? High end price. Low end service.

Thanks.

I fully agreed with you. Apparently, we are all wrong about HP as a company who used to provide good services and supports to their so called “value customer”. We are no longer so precious anymore and treating like an idiot after purchasing their products.

No point talking more about their new or imcoming products. Advice for all the readers who are thinking of buying any HP product, please take into consideration on the actual painful and lousy HP services to even their high-end products.

 
05-14-2005, 12:30 PM   #27

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Everyone if the upgrade was possible HP would do it!

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05-14-2005, 12:45 PM   #28

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edved – click on my name and there you “can” send a private message to anyone. To be Clear, I don’t work for anyone, I am self-employed. In addition, so far, the only CPU from the companies that I’ve looked at: HP, Dell, and i-mate is the Intel® PXA270 Processor, plus all have at least 64 MB ROM. The only exception is the Dell Axim X30?? (CPU, ROM – Developer and/or hardware decisions): i-mate PDA2K PPC Phone 400MHz Intel® PXA263 XScale Processor • 128MB RAM; 64MB ROM i-mate JAM Pocket PC Phone 416MHz Bulverde Processor • 64MB RAM; 64MB ROM Axim X50v Intel® PXA270 624MHz, 128MB ROM 64MB SDRAM Axim X50 Intel® PXA270 520MHz, 128MB ROM 64MB SDRAM Axim X30

Intel® PXA270 624MHz, 64MB ROM, 64MB SDRAM

 
05-14-2005, 01:31 PM   #29

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#$^$%$$%$%^$% HP products! Forget about buying HP products anymore! And do not dream on the incoming 65xx. The most impractical and ugly phone I even seen! Who want to buy 2.G phone now, right?

H63xx is a good design and combo. Unfortunately, HP screwed it up. Bad supports and failed to provide continuous supports and upgrades. HP is no longer an innovative and good service provider anymore, go for other better vendors.

 
05-14-2005, 05:43 PM   #30

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con-vinced

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Everyone if the upgrade was possible HP would do it!

I am curious to know how you are able to reach this conclusion? I’ve seen little evidence to suggest otherwise, besides the greater than 200Mhz cpu requirement, isn’t 189Mhz dual-core cpu close enough? As I implied earlier, the ROM requirements are there, therefore, what is it about the unit that’s keeping HP from offering the upgrade? Thanks.

PS- I am not asking HP for a miracle, making wine out of water, I am simply wishing for an OS update. Is that asking too much after paying greater than $700.00?

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05-14-2005, 06:23 PM   #31

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Nice post David!

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05-16-2005, 09:56 AM   #32

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Edved, If the unit does not meet the minimum requirements, regardless of how close the 6315 might be to them, it is not wise to provide an OS upgrade. The unit has enough performance issues so adding the additional load on to it would only magnify them.

I think HP made the right choice by not including it in the upgrade program.

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05-16-2005, 09:31 PM   #33

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so be it…

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Edved, If the unit does not meet the minimum requirements, regardless of how close the 6315 might be to them, it is not wise to provide an OS upgrade. The unit has enough performance issues so adding the additional load on to it would only magnify them.

I think HP made the right choice by not including it in the upgrade program.

Well, if that is in fact the case,then it’s an easy out for HP and I feel for those other smucks who purchased the other units, which HP has deemed un-upgradeable. I can recall however, being able to run Windows XP on my friend’s P3 700Mhz PC quite well. Slow? Sure, but it was stable and smooth. Apples and oranges? Perhaps. Call me naive, but I was aware of an upcoming update from Microsoft for their Mobile OS when I purchased my $700 6340 in November and figured that HP was simply skipping or skimping on Windows Mobile SE and awaiting WM5. I also think the fact that I’ve had the unit but 6 months, my third Ipaq btw, is a real kick to the *alls. Personally, I wish the OS was made available for whoever wanted it and if deemed too slow by the end user, it could be reverted back to the old OS. Sure, you might be out $40 or so, but I think that would work for me. I’ve found the 63xx cpu on the slow side, but it more than makes up for this with it’s excellent conservation of the battery.

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05-17-2005, 04:07 PM   #34

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almost believing…

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Everyone if the upgrade was possible HP would do it!

Ya! Now I get it. All the moderators are agreeing, or shall I say kissing-up to HP in order to quell any dissent!

Good job guys! You had me nearly fooled.

 
05-17-2005, 04:51 PM   #35

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If you want to believe that, that is certainly your prerogative, but you would be wrong. This site is in no way affiliated with HP so spreading misinformation or promoting something we know will not work regarding the iPAQ would not benefit the site or its members at all.

I think the evidence supports HP’s decison for not including the 6315 in the WM05 plan. The unit has had nothing but issues since its release and does not meet the minimum requirements to run the new OS. These requirments are set by Microsoft and not HP. I can understand your dissapointment but believe that including this unit in the upgrade would only bring about more problems and frustration for 6300 owners.

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I second all the moderators! Please listen to last weeks podcast.

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05-17-2005, 05:53 PM   #37

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Edved, This is not an “HP-only” issue, everyone who has “any Pocket PC” without the Intel® PXA270 and 64MB ROM feels upset. As far as I know, NO Pocket PC Phone currently uses that fast, battery draining CPU, so even HTC PPC Phones won’t see WM 5 now and/or possibly in the future. After the ROM I’m not too unhappy with my 6315. Most importantly, I “know” HP got the message… For absolute clarity, the “moderators” are pro-users and are here to help! They are very clear what’s HP and what’s not; suggestion, checkout an Axim forum! You’ll see Dell users gripping the same way.

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Nevertheless all moderators on this site are volunteers including Jack our senior editor. We are not at all affiliated with HP..

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05-17-2005, 06:47 PM   #39

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David, I know, and after reviewing my subtle suggestion I guess that I wasn’t clear enough. Absolutely clarity, Dave’s iPAQ is not HP affiliated!!! I guess you’d have to be blind to miss the “moderator signatures” to think otherwise…

HP would delete and/or edit ANY anti-HP sediments.

 
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Lol!! I think everyone now knows..

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