Palm TX and Z22 Announced today

This is a great discussion!! I am very happy I posted this. JN I agree totally HP should have priced the 19xx for max $279.95! If they did that bam! Homerun!

I'm not sure anyone is really disagreeing with you JN. Yes the Palm has more of this and that, but here at PPC enthusiast web site I think a lot of people are still going to spot the premium (and yes I think there is a premium associated as we're talking very old Palm OS5 versus brand spanking new WM5) if the only devices they could pick are the TX and 1950.
Actually in a bubble the 1950 is a great device compared to the 1700, but just like the 1700 was a step back from the 1940, the 1950 is a step back from the 4150.
Who knows who HP was targeting with the 1950. Maybe businesses wanting to unroll a bunch of Windows PDA's for a group of employees. Maybe HP just isnt seeing much value in the budget PDA segment. You can't out-Dell Dell in a desktop environment, why try to out-Palm Palm in the $250 and lower segment.

From a pure price standpoint, it most certainly is - regardless of what OS is being shipped on it. Remember, the point here is that an individual is spending the same amount of money, in the Palm case it's a high end device in the HP case, it's an "entry level".

Who does the 1950 target? Non-power users (ie. PIM users and people wanting to dabble in the pda world). Those type of users have traditionally gravitated to Palm.

Once again from a pure features standpoint, the TX surpasses the 1950 and is the same price. I don't necessarily think there should be a price premium for the OS. The Palm platform with Garnet 5.0 can do mostly everything that the PPC can do. It's people like the hard-core users that understand where PPC's surpass POS.

Just imagine a non-pda literate person walking into a CompUSA looking to buy a pda. Salesmans points to a TX and says "it's got this, this and that, and it's $299." Then points to a 1950 and says "oh, that's a windows device and it doesn't have this, that, and the other thing, and it's $299." Like I said before, unless someone is dead-set on buying an entry-level WM device, odds are they will get the one with more features.

Yeah, not really a fair apples to apples comparison. OS5 versus WM5...I'll pay the premium, though I would also seriously be looking at a base Axim...

From what I understand of a couple of reviews on this device, the OS is 5.0 instead of the 6.0 which was announced almost a year ago. I do not see this as being a killer of the rx1950 in any way.

Once again Palm undercuts HP and does so with aplomb. Why would someone choose a 1950 with limited memory, only wifi, qvga screen for $299 retail when they can choose a $299 Palm TX with BT/wifi/higher res screen, etc.

The only reason would be that someone HAS to have a WM device. Otherwise, for the money and for the functionality, the TX outclasses the 1950.

If HP really wanted to move those 1950's and make it a slam dunk, they would offer it at around $250 or lower.

Wow, OK guys...

Anywho on the point of this story, this isn't such a bad move for Palm. The TX FINALLY brings the Palm up to the level of a decent PPC Hardware-wise (the main reason I left Palm in the first place), and Zire should do a decent job of bolstering mobile devices in the budget segment (being a TRUE budget PDA). Someone has to be buying those Sharp and Casio $20 calculator things at Target. Too bad Palm couldn't have done this 2 years ago...

you should really use the submit news section of the site.

Actually, yes.

I have posted some links to reviews and announcements:

http://davesipaq.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9615 (PDA geek review)

http://davesipaq.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9134 (O2 Atom)

http://davesipaq.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9676 (BeyondTheTech's Wizard Blog)

Have either of you submitted us news on it? That would be helpful.

If people are looking to buy a Windows Mobile Treo, why on earth would they care about a Palm-OS non-connected device? If they wanted, or were interested in a Palm OS device, they can walk into any wireless store and pick up a POS Treo 650.

As Physboy mentioned, why no Wizard news?

K-Jam is mobile tech news, how come no articles regarding the Wizard devices??

How about the Mobility Today?? What is status?

Looks like the Palm OS is not dead yet, they seem to be getting the point by loading all of the necessary software on the device to have it be as useable as the WM OSes are. Step in the right direction for Palm OS

Its mobile tech news so it fits us fine especially those who are looking to buy a WM Treo :P

Isn't that the "Zire" product family?

Hmmmmm.....Palm news? :)